Regardless of what your opinion is of Taylor Swift, chances are you at least have one. She’s been around for so long and is so ubiquitous that it’s hard to find anyone who hasn’t heard of her. She’s a mega star, and rightly so. Her music, while not always for everyone, always resonates with someone. Whether it’s her country beginnings to her genre-bending stuff to her now more pop-inspired work, it works for someone. Lots of someones.

With the release of her new album, Lover, we wanted to talk a bit about her career, and a bit about Lover specifically. Neither of us really liked Reputation, but we’re loving Lover so this time around we figured hey, let’s spread the good word of T Swift. We go through a few new tracks and recount our relationship with a few old ones while talking in general about her career. It’s not as in depth as our Lady Gaga episode, but we still had fun.

So what do you think about Taylor Swift and/or her new album? We really love the songs we love, but we both kinda think cutting a few tracks would have helped the album feel stronger overall. But there’s so many bangers on here that we couldn’t pass up the chance to point out our faves. So buckle in for a song-filled episode of So…I’m Watching This Show!